Her Cat Doesn't Fight, But She Does

In this improvised episode of 87.9, we're joined by Lillian Brown who is a pet-fluencer. We learn about her journey curating her cat, Charlie Brown (find him @charliebrownonetwothreefour) and the events they're hoping to attend in 2026. Lillian and Glenn discuss: 
- How humans and cats can eliminate dander, and not be ashamed about it
- The event that almost ruined Charlie Brown's career
- The ways that Lillian would want to end her nine lives

Join us for a wholesome episode and watch all the way through for the sharp turn they take towards the end. 

Featuring: MJ Matheson as Glenn Sheen and Lily Meyer as Lillian Brown.

Produced by Propellant Films

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

We had like a bit of a um we had like a problem. So they uh it no no big deal.

SPEAKER_03 0:06

Like a cat fight.

SPEAKER_01 0:07

Yeah, kind of. Um but I sort of got in the fight.

SPEAKER_03 0:10

But I Oh, you you got in a physical altercation?

SPEAKER_01 0:14

Well, no no, I if it wasn't like physical So did a verbal fight then? Yeah uh did you strike this person? I didn't strike them. Um I did backhand them, but I didn't strike them. I think that's a little different.

SPEAKER_03 0:29

It's the same It's your boy, Glenn Sheen on the Ones and Twos, and I'm talking to my friend in the studio, brand new friend just made today. Welcome, Lillian Brown.

SPEAKER_01 0:43

Hello, hi, thank you for having me, Glenn.

SPEAKER_03 0:45

Lillian Brown, you are a pet influencer.

SPEAKER_01 0:48

Yes, I am, yes.

SPEAKER_03 0:49

Which is fascinating to me.

SPEAKER_01 0:51

Is it?

SPEAKER_03 0:51

It is.

SPEAKER_01 0:51

I I'm so happy to hear that, Glenn.

SPEAKER_03 0:53

Well, I just I'm fascinated by pets. I'm fascinated by influencing and putting them together, I don't even know what that means. Are you you so do you like make trends happen for pets?

SPEAKER_01 1:04

So, you know, that that's kind of the goal, right? I would love to be like a trend setter in the space. Sure. Um, but currently, um, you know, I I I'm really trying to to to like build my my well, my cat Charlie. Um yes, Charlie Brown, if you put it on. Oh, that's adorable. And he just came with that name. Isn't that crazy?

SPEAKER_03 1:25

Is he a bald cat?

SPEAKER_01 1:26

No, he's black. Oh, wow. Okay, yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:31

I don't really have a joke for that.

SPEAKER_01 1:33

No, me neither.

SPEAKER_03 1:34

Because there's nothing funny about there's not no.

SPEAKER_01 1:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:37

Just you can be black and Charlie Brain.

SPEAKER_01 1:39

I don't know why I'm saying it. We could have just moved on. Yeah, we could have just moved on. He's a black cat. You know, okay, something interesting about black cats.

SPEAKER_03 1:46

Yes, please.

SPEAKER_01 1:46

Um, they don't get adopted very often. Really?

SPEAKER_03 1:49

Um because is it because people think they're bad luck?

SPEAKER_01 1:52

They're people think they're bad luck.

SPEAKER_03 1:53

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_01 1:54

So people don't adopt them. So I have a black cat named Charlie who uh, you know, I'm trying to uh build the brand. So it's like very exciting that I'm here today.

SPEAKER_03 2:03

Yeah, of course. Um because we're gonna get Charlie some follows. I hope so. We have tens of listeners uh every hour. So that's you're gonna get a couple of follows.

SPEAKER_01 2:12

That's amazing.

SPEAKER_03 2:13

And might might I add, uh, what is the uh handle for Charlie? What where where can people out there find him?

SPEAKER_01 2:18

Um it's uh just at Charlie Brown one, two, three, four. First I tried Charlie Brown, but of course that's you know taking so it's like um spelled out, like one, two. Oh it's kind of long.

SPEAKER_03 2:33

The words. So it's Charlie Brown and then the words one, two, three, four.

SPEAKER_01 2:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 2:38

Because was Charlie Brown one, two, three already taken? Spelled out?

SPEAKER_01 2:43

I didn't check.

SPEAKER_03 2:44

Oh, you just went for the full four. Good on you. I should have checked. No, it's okay. You're making, you're building your brands. No, I should have checked. People love spelling and counting. Good. Now, can I ask you this, Lillian? Uh the the cat's names Charlie and Charlie Brown, but Charlie Brown's famous for Snoopy, who is a dog. Yeah. Is there a correlation there?

SPEAKER_01 3:03

No.

SPEAKER_03 3:04

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 3:05

Sorry, sorry, no, my name, uh my last name is just Brown.

SPEAKER_03 3:09

Sure.

SPEAKER_01 3:10

And then when I adopted him, his name was Charlie.

SPEAKER_03 3:12

So just Charlie Brown.

SPEAKER_01 3:14

So yeah, he's just Charlie Brown. People always ask me that. And I guess that's a fair question. I do get a little annoyed by it because it's like I didn't really pick either my name or his name. Sure. I don't I liked Snoopy.

SPEAKER_03 3:28

Yeah, we're not, we're not, we're not digging on Snoopy here. In this house, we celebrate Charles M. Schultz.

SPEAKER_01 3:34

Yeah, I love the comics.

SPEAKER_03 3:35

Been canceled yet. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:37

Well, I think he's dead.

SPEAKER_03 3:39

He got like officially canceled. Yeah. We got canceled by God.

SPEAKER_01 3:43

Yeah. If you believe in God.

SPEAKER_03 3:44

Well, and even if you don't. Yeah. So what does a pet influencer do?

SPEAKER_01 3:49

Are you talking about Charlie? What does Charlie do, or what do I do as an influencer?

SPEAKER_03 3:53

Oh, I would love to hear both, I guess.

SPEAKER_01 3:55

Okay. So um, I mean, as a pet influencer, there's like a lot of day-to-day. Honestly, you might relate to some of this stuff. You know, you're you're doing a little bit of uh production, a little bit of planning. But there's also a lot that goes into like his care too, you know, because he has to be uh look and spick and span too. Because like one time he had just like a little bit of dander. I mean, he's a black cat. You see the the dander.

SPEAKER_03 4:18

Yeah, I used to have that problem big time before I went bald. Yeah. Yeah. Way, way less uh noticeable dander. I still have a lot of dander. You just can't see it.

SPEAKER_01 4:26

Head and shoulders, not maybe for the listeners.

SPEAKER_03 4:28

Oh, we can advertise head and shoulders. It's been around for a long time, yeah. Yeah, I just while we're at it, knees and toes, you know. Yeah, that'd be funny. They should make a body wash called knees and toes.

SPEAKER_01 4:37

Yeah. Right? I'm gonna write that down. Yeah, write that down.

SPEAKER_03 4:41

So you're um pampering uh and priming and propering uh uh Charlie on a daily basis because he looks presentable.

SPEAKER_01 4:48

I brought up the dander because you know, one time I posted a posted just like a just just a classic cat video. He had a little bit of dander and someone got really like a they said I wasn't like taking good enough care of him. I know. And he knows don't even know me, they don't even know what type of care I'm taking with him, and I'm taking very good care of him, by the way. Um, so you know, there's I had to get into like the salmon oil stuff. Oh yes, it makes their coats very silky.

SPEAKER_03 5:18

Um, so you you cover him in salmon oil?

SPEAKER_01 5:21

No, I guess I I should have clarified. It's not like on the skin, you just like put it on the food. Oh but it's not cheap and uh but you put it on the food and then they they eat it and it just like uh Charlie's eaten better than me. Sort of like when you have fish oil. I mean, again, I I didn't mean to bring up hair again. Uh but it's okay.

SPEAKER_03 5:40

Um I'm at peace with the fact that my hair is gone. It's kind of like uh yeah, I I I had a funeral, you know, when I was younger, and then I went to a wake for my hair. Yeah. And now it's like an immemorium.

SPEAKER_01 5:50

Yeah, I've been to a funeral before. Oh, you have? Yeah. What was that like? Not fun like this. Not fun like this.

SPEAKER_03 5:56

No, we're we're hopefully we're better than a funeral.

SPEAKER_01 5:59

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 6:00

We're putting the fun in funeral. Yeah well, I mean nothing's died here except for a few careers. Yeah, so uh fish oil.

SPEAKER_01 6:08

Fish oil. Well, that's for humans. Oh, sure. But he has salmon oil.

SPEAKER_03 6:13

And salmon oil is different than fish oil. Well because maybe they're just selling salmon oil, but it's really like goldfish oil.

SPEAKER_01 6:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 6:19

You know, but actually that'd be more expensive because goldfish are small.

SPEAKER_01 6:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 6:23

And so you'd have to squeeze a lot of them. Actually, don't know how oil's made.

SPEAKER_01 6:26

I don't know how oil's made.

SPEAKER_03 6:27

I don't get how oil's made. I know that our country is reliant upon it. Um so I want to know a couple things here. Do you have a memory from childhood that maybe um sparks in you right now uh uh what you'd become today? Yeah you look back and go, oh man, maybe that was the moment I knew one day I'll be a pet influencer.

SPEAKER_01 6:46

I was at church. You know, every Christmas they do they do the the Jesus story. You you know, oh yeah, the nativity. Yeah, the nativity. But the point is, um every year I was a sheep. Uh like one of the sheep. Oh.

SPEAKER_03 6:59

So you learned then from being a sheep so many years in a row. Yes. That you're like, maybe I should be influencing pets.

SPEAKER_01 7:05

Yeah, I'm like, maybe like when I grow up, I think like being an animal, like I just like did well in that role. Yeah. I just like get it. I I understand what it means to be like performing as an animal.

SPEAKER_02 7:19

Sure.

SPEAKER_01 7:20

And I think I channeling that, I can really like I can really like use those skills and channel that into my cat. And I do have a lot of cats. I've tried with a couple of them, but he really has that like star quality.

SPEAKER_03 7:34

So you mentioned dander, and now that's been taken care of. Taken care of with the salmon oil. Other issues at all with um, you know, having five cats around your house? Like you have to worry about, you know, I don't know, fleas or like uh other like pests or whatever?

SPEAKER_01 7:46

Yeah, well, sometimes we don't have to worry about mice because they get those.

SPEAKER_03 7:50

That's like uh Tom, Tom, Tom, Tom, Tom, and Jerry.

SPEAKER_01 7:52

Yeah, or Tom, Tom, Tom, Tom, Tom. No Jerry, because they killed it. Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 7:57

Jerry's dead. Uh do you have any tricks to sync up with your cat when maybe you and Charlie are getting ready to make a video or do some type of like event? Do you have any like ways to have him kind of sync up with your vibe?

SPEAKER_01 8:07

Well, skin to skin contact is very important. Oh wow. Yeah, yeah. Sort of like babies, like you hold them. Sometimes I like, you know, when you go to bed, sometimes I, you know, I don't I I feel like I'm revealing I don't want to get graphic or anything. But like, you know, sometimes you sleep like just in your underwear, you know? Oh, wow. And so do you sleep in pajamas?

SPEAKER_03 8:28

No, no, no. Oh, okay. I sleep, I sleep naked. Oh, so you But I end up sticking to my air mattress. So I I might get a sheet or something like that. You need sheets?

SPEAKER_01 8:36

I mean, I have some sheets in my car I was gonna donate. I can give you some sheets if you need sheets for an air mattress. What size is the air mattress?

SPEAKER_03 8:41

Are they covered in cat hair?

SPEAKER_01 8:44

Um, they're not too bad. For five cats, not too bad.

SPEAKER_03 8:48

For five cats, where's that?

SPEAKER_01 8:49

You kind of are desperate anyway. Sorry, I was just trying to be funny.

SPEAKER_03 8:54

No, it's it is I uh I've been getting I've been getting told that a lot. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 8:59

Well, you just said you stick to an air mattress. Um I guess you could just wear your boxers too.

SPEAKER_03 9:04

That's well, I usually I mean I'm actually I'm I'm more of a briefs man.

SPEAKER_01 9:07

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_03 9:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:08

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 9:10

We're about to cut the ad break right now, actually.

SPEAKER_01 9:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 9:13

Uh but uh we're in the studio with Lillian Brown, uh a pet influencer, uh, mother of uh at Charlie Brown1234. You can find her across the platforms. We'll be right back. Boom! Are you doing great? You're doing so good.

SPEAKER_01 9:27

Oh, thanks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Thank you. Are you okay? You seemed a little teary. Oh, I'm good. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_03 9:33

I've just been learning to express my emotions when I feel that's great. Like really intense emotions. Yeah. Me too. Yeah. I used to I used to only ever cry at the uh grocery store. I would just kind of find like the softest kiwi and you know, pet it with my thumb. And um it wasn't my only chance to kind of like feel like it was like the kind of like a cheek of acid.

SPEAKER_01 9:50

Oh is it working?

SPEAKER_03 9:52

What's that? Crying. It feels good.

SPEAKER_01 9:54

Okay, good.

SPEAKER_03 9:55

Yeah, it's kind of like squeezing out a sponge that was full of acid.

SPEAKER_01 9:59

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 10:00

Because even if you hide your feelings because you're afraid people you love might stop loving you. Yeah. And then they stop loving you anyway. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 10:07

What was the point? What was I what was I feeling? Yeah, what was the point?

SPEAKER_03 10:10

Yeah, I should have been more honest with myself.

SPEAKER_01 10:11

Yeah, you gotta tell people you love them, and um, I do that every you know, every day with my cats. You do that with your cats, yeah. All the time.

SPEAKER_03 10:18

Oh, and we're coming back. All right. You're doing great. We're back, 87.9 K who radio. That last ad was from the City Council of Minnetonka, Minnesota. Minnetonka, you can't live here, but you can visit. Okay, we're in the studio with Lillian Brown. She's a pet influencer. She is the mother of at Charlie Brown1234 on Instagram and all over social media platforms. What's next for you and for Charlie and for building your brand?

SPEAKER_01 10:46

Yeah, well, you you know, the the hardest part is getting uh you know, getting sponsorship. Uh so I've been really been trying, you know, the the big ones, you know, you've got Petco. McDonald's. You've got ch Well McDonald's Disney. Yeah, Coca-Cola.

SPEAKER_03 11:02

Yeah. Oh, so I'm just repeating them so we can get some of them, hopefully. Okay. I'm pretty sure if we say them enough, they have to pay us.

SPEAKER_01 11:08

Yeah, I think so.

SPEAKER_03 11:09

So sponsorship, but like is there another event coming up, or is this something that you're looking to champion or move forward with with Charlie?

SPEAKER_01 11:16

Uh next event. Well, that's sort of like in the works. That's what we're trying to get, is the next event.

SPEAKER_02 11:22

Sure.

SPEAKER_01 11:22

Um, at the last event, we sort of uh we had this, we had like uh event where we brought our pets and we spoke to like other influencers and we had like a bit of a um we had like a problem. So they uh it no big deal. Like a cat fight. Yeah, kind of. Um, but I sort of got in the fight.

SPEAKER_03 11:43

But I Oh you you got in a physical altercation?

SPEAKER_01 11:47

Well, no, no, I it wasn't like physical, I wouldn't say physical altercation.

SPEAKER_03 11:51

So what kind of so just a verbal fight then?

SPEAKER_01 11:54

Uh I I don't I guess. I I don't think it was my fault, you know. Oh, I wasn't saying because you know uh her cat was the one that was looking at my cat weird. Oh yeah, and then and then started like hissing at only my cat. And uh and and then and then I was like, hey, hey, what's going on? Like, and she was like, Oh, he's just a cat. I don't know, maybe it they're getting aggressive, and I was like, No, this feels like pointed, you know.

SPEAKER_03 12:25

Sure. And uh so it sounds like you took it personal for Charlie.

SPEAKER_01 12:30

No, no, no, no, no. It it it kind of was personal.

SPEAKER_03 12:33

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 12:34

Um, you know, uh I got a little upset. Sure.

SPEAKER_02 12:37

Um did you strike this person?

SPEAKER_01 12:42

I didn't strike them. Um I did backhand them, but I didn't strike them. I think that's a little different. Well, they did say they were like, you wanted to be in they like called me a failed actress, and I was like, I didn't try to be an act, like it was a little rude, you know?

SPEAKER_03 13:00

Like a little was this a person you knew well?

SPEAKER_01 13:02

I don't want to name names. Um, but we are related, but it's unimportant.

SPEAKER_03 13:07

So you you got into an altercation with somebody you happened to be related to, you said? Yes. And then you you bitch slapped. Well backhand.

SPEAKER_01 13:15

I think bitch slap is that's like open hand to the face. That's a bitch slap. Is it?

SPEAKER_03 13:19

I thought a bitch slap was this way.

SPEAKER_01 13:20

No, no, no, that's a backhand.

SPEAKER_03 13:22

Oh, that's a backhand. What was Charlie doing during this?

SPEAKER_01 13:24

Um, you know, that's a great question. I kind of had lost track of him.

SPEAKER_03 13:30

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 13:31

But it's we found him. Um he was he was just hiding.

SPEAKER_03 13:35

Well, Lillian, we're we're getting right to the end of the interview, but we do have a couple of questions from the K Who questionnaire, if you don't mind. This is just some rapid fire shoot from the hip. Whatever you come to uh mind first. I would love to hear some of your thoughts on this. Uh first of all, what's your favorite kind of muffin? Blueberry. Blueberry classic. Uh, if you could be reincarnated into any animal, what would it be? Cat. I think I knew the answer, but I had to ask you. Silly question. Fair. And then let's say you're a cat, you have all nine lives to spend. Uh, what are the eight ways you want to die?

SPEAKER_01 14:05

Okay. Eight ways I want to die. Um, well, I'm killing myself in every version.

SPEAKER_00 14:10

Oh, wow.

SPEAKER_01 14:11

You know, and there's many ways to do that. Um you've got pills, you've got um guns. I I'm not allowed to have that anymore. Uh you got the bridge, you've got uh pill. No, I already said that one. Um I guess heading by a bus might be kind of interesting. I'd make the news. I might be famous from that, you know, if I get like a big accident or something. A big accident could be cool, you know, or like dying in like a terrorist attack. People would remember my name.

SPEAKER_03 14:45

Yeah. I thought you were gonna say, like, oh, bungee jumping or like parachute didn't open or that seems morbid.

SPEAKER_01 14:53

Oh. How would you how would you want to die if you're gonna be able to do that?

SPEAKER_02 14:56

I'd like to live forever.

SPEAKER_01 14:57

Oh, okay. I didn't know that was an option. Okay, sorry. I'd want to live forever. Oh, okay. We'll just put that one down as your I'd want to live forever.

SPEAKER_03 15:05

Forever. Kind of like uh like like Thackeray Binks in uh Hocus Pocus. That was a black cat that could keep coming back until he finally did die and got released.

SPEAKER_01 15:14

I've never seen a hocus pocus.

SPEAKER_03 15:16

Drop everything you're doing tonight.

SPEAKER_01 15:18

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_03 15:18

And watch Hocus Pocus. Okay. And actually, you know what? Skip the first one. I'm gonna drop everything too. Watch Hocus Pocus 2.

SPEAKER_02 15:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 15:24

Don't even watch the first one.

SPEAKER_02 15:25

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 15:25

Well, Lillian Brown, mother of Charlie Brown, 1234, you can find her online and uh find that little uh scamp, uh now dandruff free, uh uh online. Uh thank you so much for joining us in the studio.

SPEAKER_01 15:36

Thank you so much for having me. This is a dream completely.

SPEAKER_03 15:38

It's an absolute pleasure to have you here. Absolutely. Uh so up next, uh, listeners, K Who Radio, uh, in honor of this interview, uh, the next hour rock block is actually just gonna be the musical Cats played on repeat. Okay.